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PLATO: THE REPUBLIC
Translated by Benjamin Jowett
New York: P. F. Collier & Son.
Copyright © 1901 The Colonial Press.
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BOOK VIII: Four Forms of Government
SOCRATES - GLAUCON
AND so, Glaucon, we have arrived at the conclusion that in
the perfect State wives and children are to be in common; and
that all education and the pursuits of war and peace are also
to be common, and the best philosophers and the bravest warriors
are to be their kings?
That, replied Glaucon, has been acknowledged.
Yes, I said; and we have further acknowledged that the governors,
when appointed themselves, will take their soldiers and place
them in houses such as we were describing, which are common
to all, and contain nothing private, or individual; and about
their property, you remember what we agreed?
Yes, I remember that no one was to have any of the ordinary
possessions of mankind; they were to be warrior athletes and
guardians, receiving from the other citizens, in lieu of annual
payment, only their maintenance, and they were to take care
of themselves and of the whole State.
True, I said; and now that this division of our task is concluded,
let us find the point at which we digressed, that we may return
into the old path.
There is no difficulty in returning; you implied, then as
now, that you had finished the description of the State: you
said that such a State was good, and that the man was good who
answered to it, although, as now appears, you had more excellent
things to relate both of State and man. And you said further,
that if this was the true form, then the others were false;
and of the false forms, you said, as I remember, that there
were four principal ones, and that their defects, and the defects
of the individuals corresponding to them, were worth examining.
When we had seen all the individuals, and finally agreed as
to who was the best and who was the worst of them, we were to
consider whether the best was not also the happiest, and the
worst the most miserable. I asked you what were the four forms
of government of which you spoke, and then Polemarchus and Adeimantus
put in their word; and you began again, and have found your
way to the point at which we have now arrived.
Your recollection, I said, is most exact.
Then, like a wrestler, he replied, you must put yourself again
in the same position; and let me ask the same questions, and
do you give me the same answer which you were about to give
me then.
Yes, if I can, I will, I said.
I shall particularly wish to hear what were the four constitutions
of which you were speaking.
That question, I said, is easily answered: the four governments
of which I spoke, so far as they have distinct names, are, first,
those of Crete and Sparta, which are generally applauded; what
is termed oligarchy comes next; this is not equally approved,
and is a form of government which teems with evils: thirdly,
democracy, which naturally follows oligarchy, although very
different: and lastly comes tyranny, great and famous, which
differs from them all, and is the fourth and worst disorder
of a State. I do not know, do you? of any other constitution
which can be said to have a distinct character. There are lordships
and principalities which are bought and sold, and some other
intermediate forms of government. But these are nondescripts
and may be found equally among Hellenes and among barbarians.
Yes, he replied, we certainly hear of many curious forms of
government which exist among them.
Do you know, I said, that governments vary as the dispositions
of men vary, and that there must be as many of the one as there
are of the other? For we cannot suppose that States are made
of 'oak and rock,' and not out of the human natures which are
in them, and which in a figure turn the scale and draw other
things after them?
Yes, he said, the States are as the men are; they grow out
of human characters.
Then if the constitutions of States are five, the dispositions
of individual minds will also be five?
Certainly.
Him who answers to aristocracy, and whom we rightly call just
and good, we have already described.
We have.
Then let us now proceed to describe the inferior sort of natures,
being the contentious and ambitious, who answer to the Spartan
polity; also the oligarchical, democratical, and tyrannical.
Let us place the most just by the side of the most unjust, and
when we see them we shall be able to compare the relative happiness
or unhappiness of him who leads a life of pure justice or pure
injustice. The enquiry will then be completed. And we shall
know whether we ought to pursue injustice, as Thrasymachus advises,
or in accordance with the conclusions of the argument to prefer
justice.
Certainly, he replied, we must do as you say.
Shall we follow our old plan, which we adopted with a view
to clearness, of taking the State first and then proceeding
to the individual, and begin with the government of honour?
--I know of no name for such a government other than timocracy,
or perhaps timarchy. We will compare with this the like character
in the individual; and, after that, consider oligarchical man;
and then again we will turn our attention to democracy and the
democratical man; and lastly, we will go and view the city of
tyranny, and once more take a look into the tyrant's soul, and
try to arrive at a satisfactory decision.
That way of viewing and judging of the matter will be very
suitable.
First, then, I said, let us enquire how timocracy (the government
of honour) arises out of aristocracy (the government of the
best). Clearly, all political changes originate in divisions
of the actual governing power; a government which is united,
however small, cannot be moved.
Very true, he said.
In what way, then, will our city be moved, and in what manner
the two classes of auxiliaries and rulers disagree among themselves
or with one another? Shall we, after the manner of Homer, pray
the Muses to tell us 'how discord first arose'? Shall we imagine
them in solemn mockery, to play and jest with us as if we were
children, and to address us in a lofty tragic vein, making believe
to be in earnest?
How would they address us?
After this manner: --A city which is thus constituted can
hardly be shaken; but, seeing that everything which has a beginning
has also an end, even a constitution such as yours will not
last for ever, but will in time be dissolved. And this is the
dissolution: --In plants that grow in the earth, as well as
in animals that move on the earth's surface, fertility and sterility
of soul and body occur when the circumferences of the circles
of each are completed, which in short-lived existences pass
over a short space, and in long-lived ones over a long space.
But to the knowledge of human fecundity and sterility all the
wisdom and education of your rulers will not attain; the laws
which regulate them will not be discovered by an intelligence
which is alloyed with sense, but will escape them, and they
will bring children into the world when they ought not. Now
that which is of divine birth has a period which is contained
in a perfect number, but the period of human birth is comprehended
in a number in which first increments by involution and evolution
(or squared and cubed) obtaining three intervals and four terms
of like and unlike, waxing and waning numbers, make all the
terms commensurable and agreeable to one another. The base of
these (3) with a third added (4) when combined with five (20)
and raised to the third power furnishes two harmonies; the first
a square which is a hundred times as great (400 = 4 X 100),
and the other a figure having one side equal to the former,
but oblong, consisting of a hundred numbers squared upon rational
diameters of a square (i. e. omitting fractions), the side of
which is five (7 X 7 = 49 X 100 = 4900), each of them being
less by one (than the perfect square which includes the fractions,
sc. 50) or less by two perfect squares of irrational diameters
(of a square the side of which is five = 50 + 50 = 100); and
a hundred cubes of three (27 X 100 = 2700 + 4900 + 400 = 8000).
Now this number represents a geometrical figure which has control
over the good and evil of births. For when your guardians are
ignorant of the law of births, and unite bride and bridegroom
out of season, the children will not be goodly or fortunate.
And though only the best of them will be appointed by their
predecessors, still they will be unworthy to hold their fathers'
places, and when they come into power as guardians, they will
soon be found to fall in taking care of us, the Muses, first
by under-valuing music; which neglect will soon extend to gymnastic;
and hence the young men of your State will be less cultivated.
In the succeeding generation rulers will be appointed who have
lost the guardian power of testing the metal of your different
races, which, like Hesiod's, are of gold and silver and brass
and iron. And so iron will be mingled with silver, and brass
with gold, and hence there will arise dissimilarity and inequality
and irregularity, which always and in all places are causes
of hatred and war. This the Muses affirm to be the stock from
which discord has sprung, wherever arising; and this is their
answer to us.
Yes, and we may assume that they answer truly.
Why, yes, I said, of course they answer truly; how can the
Muses speak falsely?
And what do the Muses say next?
When discord arose, then the two races were drawn different
ways: the iron and brass fell to acquiring money and land and
houses and gold and silver; but the gold and silver races, not
wanting money but having the true riches in their own nature,
inclined towards virtue and the ancient order of things. There
was a battle between them, and at last they agreed to distribute
their land and houses among individual owners; and they enslaved
their friends and maintainers, whom they had formerly protected
in the condition of freemen, and made of them subjects and servants;
and they themselves were engaged in war and in keeping a watch
against them.
I believe that you have rightly conceived the origin of the
change.
And the new government which thus arises will be of a form
intermediate between oligarchy and aristocracy?
Very true.
Such will be the change, and after the change has been made,
how will they proceed? Clearly, the new State, being in a mean
between oligarchy and the perfect State, will partly follow
one and partly the other, and will also have some peculiarities.
True, he said.
In the honour given to rulers, in the abstinence of the warrior
class from agriculture, handicrafts, and trade in general, in
the institution of common meals, and in the attention paid to
gymnastics and military training --in all these respects this
State will resemble the former.
True.
But in the fear of admitting philosophers to power, because
they are no longer to be had simple and earnest, but are made
up of mixed elements; and in turning from them to passionate
and less complex characters, who are by nature fitted for war
rather than peace; and in the value set by them upon military
stratagems and contrivances, and in the waging of everlasting
wars --this State will be for the most part peculiar.
Yes.
Yes, I said; and men of this stamp will be covetous of money,
like those who live in oligarchies; they will have, a fierce
secret longing after gold and silver, which they will hoard
in dark places, having magazines and treasuries of their own
for the deposit and concealment of them; also castles which
are just nests for their eggs, and in which they will spend
large sums on their wives, or on any others whom they please.
That is most true, he said.
And they are miserly because they have no means of openly
acquiring the money which they prize; they will spend that which
is another man's on the gratification of their desires, stealing
their pleasures and running away like children from the law,
their father: they have been schooled not by gentle influences
but by force, for they have neglected her who is the true Muse,
the companion of reason and philosophy, and have honoured gymnastic
more than music.
Undoubtedly, he said, the form of government which you describe
is a mixture of good and evil.
Why, there is a mixture, I said; but one thing, and one thing
only, is predominantly seen, --the spirit of contention and
ambition; and these are due to the prevalence of the passionate
or spirited element.
Assuredly, he said.
Such is the origin and such the character of this State, which
has been described in outline only; the more perfect execution
was not required, for a sketch is enough to show the type of
the most perfectly just and most perfectly unjust; and to go
through all the States and all the characters of men, omitting
none of them, would be an interminable labour.
Very true, he replied.
Now what man answers to this form of government-how did he
come into being, and what is he like?
SOCRATES - ADEIMANTUS
I think, said Adeimantus, that in the spirit of contention
which characterises him, he is not unlike our friend Glaucon.
Perhaps, I said, he may be like him in that one point; but
there are other respects in which he is very different.
In what respects?
He should have more of self-assertion and be less cultivated,
and yet a friend of culture; and he should be a good listener,
but no speaker. Such a person is apt to be rough with slaves,
unlike the educated man, who is too proud for that; and he will
also be courteous to freemen, and remarkably obedient to authority;
he is a lover of power and a lover of honour; claiming to be
a ruler, not because he is eloquent, or on any ground of that
sort, but because he is a soldier and has performed feats of
arms; he is also a lover of gymnastic exercises and of the chase.
Yes, that is the type of character which answers to timocracy.
Such an one will despise riches only when he is young; but
as he gets older he will be more and more attracted to them,
because he has a piece of the avaricious nature in him, and
is not singleminded towards virtue, having lost his best guardian.
Who was that? said Adeimantus.
Philosophy, I said, tempered with music, who comes and takes
her abode in a man, and is the only saviour of his virtue throughout
life.
Good, he said.
Such, I said, is the timocratical youth, and he is like the
timocratical State.
Exactly.
His origin is as follows: --He is often the young son of a
grave father, who dwells in an ill-governed city, of which he
declines the honours and offices, and will not go to law, or
exert himself in any way, but is ready to waive his rights in
order that he may escape trouble.
And how does the son come into being?
The character of the son begins to develop when he hears his
mother complaining that her husband has no place in the government,
of which the consequence is that she has no precedence among
other women. Further, when she sees her husband not very eager
about money, and instead of battling and railing in the law
courts or assembly, taking whatever happens to him quietly;
and when she observes that his thoughts always centre in himself,
while he treats her with very considerable indifference, she
is annoyed, and says to her son that his father is only half
a man and far too easy-going: adding all the other complaints
about her own ill-treatment which women are so fond of rehearsing.
Yes, said Adeimantus, they give us plenty of them, and their
complaints are so like themselves.
And you know, I said, that the old servants also, who are
supposed to be attached to the family, from time to time talk
privately in the same strain to the son; and if they see any
one who owes money to his father, or is wronging him in any
way, and he falls to prosecute them, they tell the youth that
when he grows up he must retaliate upon people of this sort,
and be more of a man than his father. He has only to walk abroad
and he hears and sees the same sort of thing: those who do their
own business in the city are called simpletons, and held in
no esteem, while the busy-bodies are honoured and applauded.
The result is that the young man, hearing and seeing all these
thing --hearing too, the words of his father, and having a nearer
view of his way of life, and making comparisons of him and others
--is drawn opposite ways: while his father is watering and nourishing
the rational principle in his soul, the others are encouraging
the passionate and appetitive; and he being not originally of
a bad nature, but having kept bad company, is at last brought
by their joint influence to a middle point, and gives up the
kingdom which is within him to the middle principle of contentiousness
and passion, and becomes arrogant and ambitious.
You seem to me to have described his origin perfectly.
Then we have now, I said, the second form of government and
the second type of character?
We have.
Next, let us look at another man who, as Aeschylus says,
Is set over against another State; or rather, as our plan
requires, begin with the State.
By all means.
I believe that oligarchy follows next in order.
And what manner of government do you term oligarchy?
A government resting on a valuation of property, in which
the rich have power and the poor man is deprived of it.
I understand, he replied.
Ought I not to begin by describing how the change from timocracy
to oligarchy arises?
Yes.
Well, I said, no eyes are required in order to see how the
one passes into the other.
How?
The accumulation of gold in the treasury of private individuals
is ruin the of timocracy; they invent illegal modes of expenditure;
for what do they or their wives care about the law?
Yes, indeed.
And then one, seeing another grow rich, seeks to rival him,
and thus the great mass of the citizens become lovers of money.
Likely enough.
And so they grow richer and richer, and the more they think
of making a fortune the less they think of virtue; for when
riches and virtue are placed together in the scales of the balance,
the one always rises as the other falls.
True.
And in proportion as riches and rich men are honoured in the
State, virtue and the virtuous are dishonoured.
Clearly.
And what is honoured is cultivated, and that which has no
honour is neglected.
That is obvious.
And so at last, instead of loving contention and glory, men
become lovers of trade and money; they honour and look up to
the rich man, and make a ruler of him, and dishonour the poor
man.
They do so.
They next proceed to make a law which fixes a sum of money
as the qualification of citizenship; the sum is higher in one
place and lower in another, as the oligarchy is more or less
exclusive; and they allow no one whose property falls below
the amount fixed to have any share in the government. These
changes in the constitution they effect by force of arms, if
intimidation has not already done their work.
Very true.
And this, speaking generally, is the way in which oligarchy
is established.
Yes, he said; but what are the characteristics of this form
of government, and what are the defects of which we were speaking?
First of all, I said, consider the nature of the qualification
just think what would happen if pilots were to be chosen according
to their property, and a poor man were refused permission to
steer, even though he were a better pilot?
You mean that they would shipwreck?
Yes; and is not this true of the government of anything?
I should imagine so.
Except a city? --or would you include a city?
Nay, he said, the case of a city is the strongest of all,
inasmuch as the rule of a city is the greatest and most difficult
of all.
This, then, will be the first great defect of oligarchy?
Clearly.
And here is another defect which is quite as bad.
What defect?
The inevitable division: such a State is not one, but two
States, the one of poor, the other of rich men; and they are
living on the same spot and always conspiring against one another.
That, surely, is at least as bad.
Another discreditable feature is, that, for a like reason,
they are incapable of carrying on any war. Either they arm the
multitude, and then they are more afraid of them than of the
enemy; or, if they do not call them out in the hour of battle,
they are oligarchs indeed, few to fight as they are few to rule.
And at the same time their fondness for money makes them unwilling
to pay taxes.
How discreditable!
And, as we said before, under such a constitution the same
persons have too many callings --they are husbandmen, tradesmen,
warriors, all in one. Does that look well?
Anything but well.
There is another evil which is, perhaps, the greatest of all,
and to which this State first begins to be liable.
What evil?
A man may sell all that he has, and another may acquire his
property; yet after the sale he may dwell in the city of which
he is no longer a part, being neither trader, nor artisan, nor
horseman, nor hoplite, but only a poor, helpless creature.
Yes, that is an evil which also first begins in this State.
The evil is certainly not prevented there; for oligarchies
have both the extremes of great wealth and utter poverty.
True.
But think again: In his wealthy days, while he was spending
his money, was a man of this sort a whit more good to the State
for the purposes of citizenship? Or did he only seem to be a
member of the ruling body, although in truth he was neither
ruler nor subject, but just a spendthrift?
As you say, he seemed to be a ruler, but was only a spendthrift.
May we not say that this is the drone in the house who is
like the drone in the honeycomb, and that the one is the plague
of the city as the other is of the hive?
Just so, Socrates.
And God has made the flying drones, Adeimantus, all without
stings, whereas of the walking drones he has made some without
stings but others have dreadful stings; of the stingless class
are those who in their old age end as paupers; of the stingers
come all the criminal class, as they are termed.
Most true, he said.
Clearly then, whenever you see paupers in a State, somewhere
in that neighborhood there are hidden away thieves, and cutpurses
and robbers of temples, and all sorts of malefactors.
Clearly.
Well, I said, and in oligarchical States do you not find paupers?
Yes, he said; nearly everybody is a pauper who is not a ruler.
And may we be so bold as to affirm that there are also many
criminals to be found in them, rogues who have stings, and whom
the authorities are careful to restrain by force?
Certainly, we may be so bold.
The existence of such persons is to be attributed to want
of education, ill-training, and an evil constitution of the
State?
True.
Such, then, is the form and such are the evils of oligarchy;
and there may be many other evils.
Very likely.
Then oligarchy, or the form of government in which the rulers
are elected for their wealth, may now be dismissed. Let us next
proceed to consider the nature and origin of the individual
who answers to this State.
By all means.
Does not the timocratical man change into the oligarchical
on this wise?
How?
A time arrives when the representative of timocracy has a
son: at first he begins by emulating his father and walking
in his footsteps, but presently he sees him of a sudden foundering
against the State as upon a sunken reef, and he and all that
he has is lost; he may have been a general or some other high
officer who is brought to trial under a prejudice raised by
informers, and either put to death, or exiled, or deprived of
the privileges of a citizen, and all his property taken from
him.
Nothing more likely.
And the son has seen and known all this --he is a ruined man,
and his fear has taught him to knock ambition and passion head-foremost
from his bosom's throne; humbled by poverty he takes to money-making
and by mean and miserly savings and hard work gets a fortune
together. Is not such an one likely to seat the concupiscent
and covetous element on the vacant throne and to suffer it to
play the great king within him, girt with tiara and chain and
scimitar?
Most true, he replied.
And when he has made reason and spirit sit down on the ground
obediently on either side of their sovereign, and taught them
to know their place, he compels the one to think only of how
lesser sums may be turned into larger ones, and will not allow
the other to worship and admire anything but riches and rich
men, or to be ambitious of anything so much as the acquisition
of wealth and the means of acquiring it.
Of all changes, he said, there is none so speedy or so sure
as the conversion of the ambitious youth into the avaricious
one.
And the avaricious, I said, is the oligarchical youth?
Yes, he said; at any rate the individual out of whom he came
is like the State out of which oligarchy came.
Let us then consider whether there is any likeness between
them.
Very good.
First, then, they resemble one another in the value which
they set upon wealth?
Certainly.
Also in their penurious, laborious character; the individual
only satisfies his necessary appetites, and confines his expenditure
to them; his other desires he subdues, under the idea that they
are unprofitable.
True.
He is a shabby fellow, who saves something out of everything
and makes a purse for himself; and this is the sort of man whom
the vulgar applaud. Is he not a true image of the State which
he represents?
He appears to me to be so; at any rate money is highly valued
by him as well as by the State.
You see that he is not a man of cultivation, I said.
I imagine not, he said; had he been educated he would never
have made a blind god director of his chorus, or given him chief
honour.
Excellent! I said. Yet consider: Must we not further admit
that owing to this want of cultivation there will be found in
him dronelike desires as of pauper and rogue, which are forcibly
kept down by his general habit of life?
True.
Do you know where you will have to look if you want to discover
his rogueries?
Where must I look?
You should see him where he has some great opportunity of
acting dishonestly, as in the guardianship of an orphan.
Aye.
It will be clear enough then that in his ordinary dealings
which give him a reputation for honesty he coerces his bad passions
by an enforced virtue; not making them see that they are wrong,
or taming them by reason, but by necessity and fear constraining
them, and because he trembles for his possessions.
To be sure.
Yes, indeed, my dear friend, but you will find that the natural
desires of the drone commonly exist in him all the same whenever
he has to spend what is not his own.
Yes, and they will be strong in him too.
The man, then, will be at war with himself; he will be two
men, and not one; but, in general, his better desires will be
found to prevail over his inferior ones.
True.
For these reasons such an one will be more respectable than
most people; yet the true virtue of a unanimous and harmonious
soul will flee far away and never come near him.
I should expect so.
And surely, the miser individually will be an ignoble competitor
in a State for any prize of victory, or other object of honourable
ambition; he will not spend his money in the contest for glory;
so afraid is he of awakening his expensive appetites and inviting
them to help and join in the struggle; in true oligarchical
fashion he fights with a small part only of his resources, and
the result commonly is that he loses the prize and saves his
money.
Very true.
Can we any longer doubt, then, that the miser and money-maker
answers to the oligarchical State?
There can be no doubt.
Next comes democracy; of this the origin and nature have still
to be considered by us; and then we will enquire into the ways
of the democratic man, and bring him up for judgement.
That, he said, is our method.
Well, I said, and how does the change from oligarchy into
democracy arise? Is it not on this wise? --The good at which
such a State alms is to become as rich as possible, a desire
which is insatiable?
What then?
The rulers, being aware that their power rests upon their
wealth, refuse to curtail by law the extravagance of the spendthrift
youth because they gain by their ruin; they take interest from
them and buy up their estates and thus increase their own wealth
and importance?
To be sure.
There can be no doubt that the love of wealth and the spirit
of moderation cannot exist together in citizens of the same
State to any considerable extent; one or the other will be disregarded.
That is tolerably clear.
And in oligarchical States, from the general spread of carelessness
and extravagance, men of good family have often been reduced
to beggary?
Yes, often.
And still they remain in the city; there they are, ready to
sting and fully armed, and some of them owe money, some have
forfeited their citizenship; a third class are in both predicaments;
and they hate and conspire against those who have got their
property, and against everybody else, and are eager for revolution.
That is true.
On the other hand, the men of business, stooping as they walk,
and pretending not even to see those whom they have already
ruined, insert their sting --that is, their money --into some
one else who is not on his guard against them, and recover the
parent sum many times over multiplied into a family of children:
and so they make drone and pauper to abound in the State.
Yes, he said, there are plenty of them --that is certain.
The evil blazes up like a fire; and they will not extinguish
it, either by restricting a man's use of his own property, or
by another remedy:
What other?
One which is the next best, and has the advantage of compelling
the citizens to look to their characters: --Let there be a general
rule that every one shall enter into voluntary contracts at
his own risk, and there will be less of this scandalous money-making,
and the evils of which we were speaking will be greatly lessened
in the State.
Yes, they will be greatly lessened.
At present the governors, induced by the motives which I have
named, treat their subjects badly; while they and their adherents,
especially the young men of the governing class, are habituated
to lead a life of luxury and idleness both of body and mind;
they do nothing, and are incapable of resisting either pleasure
or pain.
Very true.
They themselves care only for making money, and are as indifferent
as the pauper to the cultivation of virtue.
Yes, quite as indifferent.
Such is the state of affairs which prevails among them. And
often rulers and their subjects may come in one another's way,
whether on a pilgrimage or a march, as fellow-soldiers or fellow-sailors;
aye, and they may observe the behaviour of each other in the
very moment of danger --for where danger is, there is no fear
that the poor will be despised by the rich --and very likely
the wiry sunburnt poor man may be placed in battle at the side
of a wealthy one who has never spoilt his complexion and has
plenty of superfluous flesh --when he sees such an one puffing
and at his wit's end, how can he avoid drawing the conclusion
that men like him are only rich because no one has the courage
to despoil them? And when they meet in private will not people
be saying to one another 'Our warriors are not good for much'?
Yes, he said, I am quite aware that this is their way of talking.
And, as in a body which is diseased the addition of a touch
from without may bring on illness, and sometimes even when there
is no external provocation a commotion may arise within-in the
same way wherever there is weakness in the State there is also
likely to be illness, of which the occasions may be very slight,
the one party introducing from without their oligarchical, the
other their democratical allies, and then the State falls sick,
and is at war with herself; and may be at times distracted,
even when there is no external cause.
Yes, surely.
And then democracy comes into being after the poor have conquered
their opponents, slaughtering some and banishing some, while
to the remainder they give an equal share of freedom and power;
and this is the form of government in which the magistrates
are commonly elected by lot.
Yes, he said, that is the nature of democracy, whether the
revolution has been effected by arms, or whether fear has caused
the opposite party to withdraw.
And now what is their manner of life, and what sort of a government
have they? for as the government is, such will be the man.
Clearly, he said.
In the first place, are they not free; and is not the city
full of freedom and frankness --a man may say and do what he
likes?
'Tis said so, he replied.
And where freedom is, the individual is clearly able to order
for himself his own life as he pleases?
Clearly.
Then in this kind of State there will be the greatest variety
of human natures?
There will.
This, then, seems likely to be the fairest of States, being
an embroidered robe which is spangled with every sort of flower.
And just as women and children think a variety of colours to
be of all things most charming, so there are many men to whom
this State, which is spangled with the manners and characters
of mankind, will appear to be the fairest of States.
Yes.
Yes, my good Sir, and there will be no better in which to
look for a government.
Why?
Because of the liberty which reigns there --they have a complete
assortment of constitutions; and he who has a mind to establish
a State, as we have been doing, must go to a democracy as he
would to a bazaar at which they sell them, and pick out the
one that suits him; then, when he has made his choice, he may
found his State.
He will be sure to have patterns enough.
And there being no necessity, I said, for you to govern in
this State, even if you have the capacity, or to be governed,
unless you like, or go to war when the rest go to war, or to
be at peace when others are at peace, unless you are so disposed
--there being no necessity also, because some law forbids you
to hold office or be a dicast, that you should not hold office
or be a dicast, if you have a fancy --is not this a way of life
which for the moment is supremely delightful
For the moment, yes.
And is not their humanity to the condemned in some cases quite
charming? Have you not observed how, in a democracy, many persons,
although they have been sentenced to death or exile, just stay
where they are and walk about the world --the gentleman parades
like a hero, and nobody sees or cares?
Yes, he replied, many and many a one.
See too, I said, the forgiving spirit of democracy, and the
'don't care' about trifles, and the disregard which she shows
of all the fine principles which we solemnly laid down at the
foundation of the city --as when we said that, except in the
case of some rarely gifted nature, there never will be a good
man who has not from his childhood been used to play amid things
of beauty and make of them a joy and a study --how grandly does
she trample all these fine notions of ours under her feet, never
giving a thought to the pursuits which make a statesman, and
promoting to honour any one who professes to be the people's
friend.
Yes, she is of a noble spirit.
These and other kindred characteristics are proper to democracy,
which is a charming form of government, full of variety and
disorder, and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequals
alike.
We know her well.
Consider now, I said, what manner of man the individual is,
or rather consider, as in the case of the State, how he comes
into being.
Very good, he said.
Is not this the way --he is the son of the miserly and oligarchical
father who has trained him in his own habits?
Exactly.
And, like his father, he keeps under by force the pleasures
which are of the spending and not of the getting sort, being
those which are called unnecessary?
Obviously.
Would you like, for the sake of clearness, to distinguish
which are the necessary and which are the unnecessary pleasures?
I should.
Are not necessary pleasures those of which we cannot get rid,
and of which the satisfaction is a benefit to us? And they are
rightly so, because we are framed by nature to desire both what
is beneficial and what is necessary, and cannot help it.
True.
We are not wrong therefore in calling them necessary?
We are not.
And the desires of which a man may get rid, if he takes pains
from his youth upwards --of which the presence, moreover, does
no good, and in some cases the reverse of good --shall we not
be right in saying that all these are unnecessary?
Yes, certainly.
Suppose we select an example of either kind, in order that
we may have a general notion of them?
Very good.
Will not the desire of eating, that is, of simple food and
condiments, in so far as they are required for health and strength,
be of the necessary class?
That is what I should suppose.
The pleasure of eating is necessary in two ways; it does us
good and it is essential to the continuance of life?
Yes.
But the condiments are only necessary in so far as they are
good for health?
Certainly.
And the desire which goes beyond this, or more delicate food,
or other luxuries, which might generally be got rid of, if controlled
and trained in youth, and is hurtful to the body, and hurtful
to the soul in the pursuit of wisdom and virtue, may be rightly
called unnecessary?
Very true.
May we not say that these desires spend, and that the others
make money because they conduce to production?
Certainly.
And of the pleasures of love, and all other pleasures, the
same holds good?
True.
And the drone of whom we spoke was he who was surfeited in
pleasures and desires of this sort, and was the slave of the
unnecessary desires, whereas he who was subject o the necessary
only was miserly and oligarchical?
Very true.
Again, let us see how the democratical man grows out of the
oligarchical: the following, as I suspect, is commonly the process.
What is the process?
When a young man who has been brought up as we were just now
describing, in a vulgar and miserly way, has tasted drones'
honey and has come to associate with fierce and crafty natures
who are able to provide for him all sorts of refinements and
varieties of pleasure --then, as you may imagine, the change
will begin of the oligarchical principle within him into the
democratical?
Inevitably.
And as in the city like was helping like, and the change was
effected by an alliance from without assisting one division
of the citizens, so too the young man is changed by a class
of desires coming from without to assist the desires within
him, that which is and alike again helping that which is akin
and alike?
Certainly.
And if there be any ally which aids the oligarchical principle
within him, whether the influence of a father or of kindred,
advising or rebuking him, then there arises in his soul a faction
and an opposite faction, and he goes to war with himself.
It must be so.
And there are times when the democratical principle gives
way to the oligarchical, and some of his desires die, and others
are banished; a spirit of reverence enters into the young man's
soul and order is restored.
Yes, he said, that sometimes happens.
And then, again, after the old desires have been driven out,
fresh ones spring up, which are akin to them, and because he,
their father, does not know how to educate them, wax fierce
and numerous.
Yes, he said, that is apt to be the way.
They draw him to his old associates, and holding secret intercourse
with them, breed and multiply in him.
Very true.
At length they seize upon the citadel of the young man's soul,
which they perceive to be void of all accomplishments and fair
pursuits and true words, which make their abode in the minds
of men who are dear to the gods, and are their best guardians
and sentinels.
None better.
False and boastful conceits and phrases mount upwards and
take their place.
They are certain to do so.
And so the young man returns into the country of the lotus-eaters,
and takes up his dwelling there in the face of all men; and
if any help be sent by his friends to the oligarchical part
of him, the aforesaid vain conceits shut the gate of the king's
fastness; and they will neither allow the embassy itself to
enter, private if private advisers offer the fatherly counsel
of the aged will they listen to them or receive them. There
is a battle and they gain the day, and then modesty, which they
call silliness, is ignominiously thrust into exile by them,
and temperance, which they nickname unmanliness, is trampled
in the mire and cast forth; they persuade men that moderation
and orderly expenditure are vulgarity and meanness, and so,
by the help of a rabble of evil appetites, they drive them beyond
the border.
Yes, with a will.
And when they have emptied and swept clean the soul of him
who is now in their power and who is being initiated by them
in great mysteries, the next thing is to bring back to their
house insolence and anarchy and waste and impudence in bright
array having garlands on their heads, and a great company with
them, hymning their praises and calling them by sweet names;
insolence they term breeding, and anarchy liberty, and waste
magnificence, and impudence courage. And so the young man passes
out of his original nature, which was trained in the school
of necessity, into the freedom and libertinism of useless and
unnecessary pleasures.
Yes, he said, the change in him is visible enough.
After this he lives on, spending his money and labour and
time on unnecessary pleasures quite as much as on necessary
ones; but if he be fortunate, and is not too much disordered
in his wits, when years have elapsed, and the heyday of passion
is over --supposing that he then re-admits into the city some
part of the exiled virtues, and does not wholly give himself
up to their successors --in that case he balances his pleasures
and lives in a sort of equilibrium, putting the government of
himself into the hands of the one which comes first and wins
the turn; and when he has had enough of that, then into the
hands of another; he despises none of them but encourages them
all equally.
Very true, he said.
Neither does he receive or let pass into the fortress any
true word of advice; if any one says to him that some pleasures
are the satisfactions of good and noble desires, and others
of evil desires, and that he ought to use and honour some and
chastise and master the others --whenever this is repeated to
him he shakes his head and says that they are all alike, and
that one is as good as another.
Yes, he said; that is the way with him.
Yes, I said, he lives from day to day indulging the appetite
of the hour; and sometimes he is lapped in drink and strains
of the flute; then he becomes a water-drinker, and tries to
get thin; then he takes a turn at gymnastics; sometimes idling
and neglecting everything, then once more living the life of
a philosopher; often he-is busy with politics, and starts to
his feet and says and does whatever comes into his head; and,
if he is emulous of any one who is a warrior, off he is in that
direction, or of men of business, once more in that. His life
has neither law nor order; and this distracted existence he
terms joy and bliss and freedom; and so he goes on.
Yes, he replied, he is all liberty and equality.
Yes, I said; his life is motley and manifold and an epitome
of the lives of many; --he answers to the State which we described
as fair and spangled. And many a man and many a woman will take
him for their pattern, and many a constitution and many an example
of manners is contained in him.
Just so.
Let him then be set over against democracy; he may truly be
called the democratic man.
Let that be his place, he said.
Last of all comes the most beautiful of all, man and State
alike, tyranny and the tyrant; these we have now to consider.
Quite true, he said.
Say then, my friend, in what manner does tyranny arise? --that
it has a democratic origin is evident.
Clearly.
And does not tyranny spring from democracy in the same manner
as democracy from oligarchy --I mean, after a sort?
How?
The good which oligarchy proposed to itself and the means
by which it was maintained was excess of wealth --am I not right?
Yes.
And the insatiable desire of wealth and the neglect of all
other things for the sake of money-getting was also the ruin
of oligarchy?
True.
And democracy has her own good, of which the insatiable desire
brings her to dissolution?
What good?
Freedom, I replied; which, as they tell you in a democracy,
is the glory of the State --and that therefore in a democracy
alone will the freeman of nature deign to dwell.
Yes; the saying is in everybody's mouth.
I was going to observe, that the insatiable desire of this
and the neglect of other things introduces the change in democracy,
which occasions a demand for tyranny.
How so?
When a democracy which is thirsting for freedom has evil cupbearers
presiding over the feast, and has drunk too deeply of the strong
wine of freedom, then, unless her rulers are very amenable and
give a plentiful draught, she calls them to account and punishes
them, and says that they are cursed oligarchs.
Yes, he replied, a very common occurrence.
Yes, I said; and loyal citizens are insultingly termed by
her slaves who hug their chains and men of naught; she would
have subjects who are like rulers, and rulers who are like subjects:
these are men after her own heart, whom she praises and honours
both in private and public. Now, in such a State, can liberty
have any limit?
Certainly not.
By degrees the anarchy finds a way into private houses, and
ends by getting among the animals and infecting them.
How do you mean?
I mean that the father grows accustomed to descend to the
level of his sons and to fear them, and the son is on a level
with his father, he having no respect or reverence for either
of his parents; and this is his freedom, and metic is equal
with the citizen and the citizen with the metic, and the stranger
is quite as good as either.
Yes, he said, that is the way.
And these are not the only evils, I said --there are several
lesser ones: In such a state of society the master fears and
flatters his scholars, and the scholars despise their masters
and tutors; young and old are all alike; and the young man is
on a level with the old, and is ready to compete with him in
word or deed; and old men condescend to the young and are full
of pleasantry and gaiety; they are loth to be thought morose
and authoritative, and therefore they adopt the manners of the
young.
Quite true, he said.
The last extreme of popular liberty is when the slave bought
with money, whether male or female, is just as free as his or
her purchaser; nor must I forget to tell of the liberty and
equality of the two sexes in relation to each other.
Why not, as Aeschylus says, utter the word which rises to
our lips?
That is what I am doing, I replied; and I must add that no
one who does not know would believe, how much greater is the
liberty which the animals who are under the dominion of man
have in a democracy than in any other State: for truly, the
she-dogs, as the proverb says, are as good as their she-mistresses,
and the horses and asses have a way of marching along with all
the rights and dignities of freemen; and they will run at anybody
who comes in their way if he does not leave the road clear for
them: and all things are just ready to burst with liberty.
When I take a country walk, he said, I often experience what
you describe. You and I have dreamed the same thing.
And above all, I said, and as the result of all, see how sensitive
the citizens become; they chafe impatiently at the least touch
of authority and at length, as you know, they cease to care
even for the laws, written or unwritten; they will have no one
over them.
Yes, he said, I know it too well.
Such, my friend, I said, is the fair and glorious beginning
out of which springs tyranny.
Glorious indeed, he said. But what is the next step?
The ruin of oligarchy is the ruin of democracy; the same disease
magnified and intensified by liberty overmasters democracy --the
truth being that the excessive increase of anything often causes
a reaction in the opposite direction; and this is the case not
only in the seasons and in vegetable and animal life, but above
all in forms of government.
True.
The excess of liberty, whether in States or individuals, seems
only to pass into excess of slavery.
Yes, the natural order.
And so tyranny naturally arises out of democracy, and the
most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most
extreme form of liberty?
As we might expect.
That, however, was not, as I believe, your question-you rather
desired to know what is that disorder which is generated alike
in oligarchy and democracy, and is the ruin of both?
Just so, he replied.
Well, I said, I meant to refer to the class of idle spendthrifts,
of whom the more courageous are the-leaders and the more timid
the followers, the same whom we were comparing to drones, some
stingless, and others having stings.
A very just comparison.
These two classes are the plagues of every city in which they
are generated, being what phlegm and bile are to the body. And
the good physician and lawgiver of the State ought, like the
wise bee-master, to keep them at a distance and prevent, if
possible, their ever coming in; and if they have anyhow found
a way in, then he should have them and their cells cut out as
speedily as possible.
Yes, by all means, he said.
Then, in order that we may see clearly what we are doing,
let us imagine democracy to be divided, as indeed it is, into
three classes; for in the first place freedom creates rather
more drones in the democratic than there were in the oligarchical
State.
That is true.
And in the democracy they are certainly more intensified.
How so?
Because in the oligarchical State they are disqualified and
driven from office, and therefore they cannot train or gather
strength; whereas in a democracy they are almost the entire
ruling power, and while the keener sort speak and act, the rest
keep buzzing about the bema and do not suffer a word to be said
on the other side; hence in democracies almost everything is
managed by the drones.
Very true, he said.
Then there is another class which is always being severed
from the mass.
What is that?
They are the orderly class, which in a nation of traders sure
to be the richest.
Naturally so.
They are the most squeezable persons and yield the largest
amount of honey to the drones.
Why, he said, there is little to be squeezed out of people
who have little.
And this is called the wealthy class, and the drones feed
upon them.
That is pretty much the case, he said.
The people are a third class, consisting of those who work
with their own hands; they are not politicians, and have not
much to live upon. This, when assembled, is the largest and
most powerful class in a democracy.
True, he said; but then the multitude is seldom willing to
congregate unless they get a little honey.
And do they not share? I said. Do not their leaders deprive
the rich of their estates and distribute them among the people;
at the same time taking care to reserve the larger part for
themselves?
Why, yes, he said, to that extent the people do share.
And the persons whose property is taken from them are compelled
to defend themselves before the people as they best can?
What else can they do?
And then, although they may have no desire of change, the
others charge them with plotting against the people and being
friends of oligarchy? True.
And the end is that when they see the people, not of their
own accord, but through ignorance, and because they are deceived
by informers, seeking to do them wrong, then at last they are
forced to become oligarchs in reality; they do not wish to be,
but the sting of the drones torments them and breeds revolution
in them.
That is exactly the truth.
Then come impeachments and judgments and trials of one another.
True.
The people have always some champion whom they set over them
and nurse into greatness.
Yes, that is their way.
This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs;
when he first appears above ground he is a protector.
Yes, that is quite clear.
How then does a protector begin to change into a tyrant? Clearly
when he does what the man is said to do in the tale of the Arcadian
temple of Lycaean Zeus.
What tale?
The tale is that he who has tasted the entrails of a single
human victim minced up with the entrails of other victims is
destined to become a wolf. Did you never hear it?
Oh, yes.
And the protector of the people is like him; having a mob
entirely at his disposal, he is not restrained from shedding
the blood of kinsmen; by the favourite method of false accusation
he brings them into court and murders them, making the life
of man to disappear, and with unholy tongue and lips tasting
the blood of his fellow citizen; some he kills and others he
banishes, at the same time hinting at the abolition of debts
and partition of lands: and after this, what will be his destiny?
Must he not either perish at the hands of his enemies, or from
being a man become a wolf --that is, a tyrant?
Inevitably.
This, I said, is he who begins to make a party against the
rich?
The same.
After a while he is driven out, but comes back, in spite of
his enemies, a tyrant full grown.
That is clear.
And if they are unable to expel him, or to get him condemned
to death by a public accusation, they conspire to assassinate
him.
Yes, he said, that is their usual way.
Then comes the famous request for a bodyguard, which is the
device of all those who have got thus far in their tyrannical
career --'Let not the people's friend,' as they say, 'be lost
to them.'
Exactly.
The people readily assent; all their fears are for him --they
have none for themselves.
Very true.
And when a man who is wealthy and is also accused of being
an enemy of the people sees this, then, my friend, as the oracle
said to Croesus,
By pebbly Hermus' shore he flees and rests not and is not
ashamed to be a coward.
And quite right too, said he, for if he were, he would never
be ashamed again.
But if he is caught he dies.
Of course.
And he, the protector of whom we spoke, is to be seen, not
'larding the plain' with his bulk, but himself the overthrower
of many, standing up in the chariot of State with the reins
in his hand, no longer protector, but tyrant absolute.
No doubt, he said.
And now let us consider the happiness of the man, and also
of the State in which a creature like him is generated.
Yes, he said, let us consider that.
At first, in the early days of his power, he is full of smiles,
and he salutes every one whom he meets; --he to be called a
tyrant, who is making promises in public and also in private!
liberating debtors, and distributing land to the people and
his followers, and wanting to be so kind and good to every one!
Of course, he said.
But when he has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or
treaty, and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always
stirring up some war or other, in order that the people may
require a leader.
To be sure.
Has he not also another object, which is that they may be
impoverished by payment of taxes, and thus compelled to devote
themselves to their daily wants and therefore less likely to
conspire against him? Clearly.
And if any of them are suspected by him of having notions
of freedom, and of resistance to his authority, he will have
a good pretext for destroying them by placing them at the mercy
of the enemy; and for all these reasons the tyrant must be always
getting up a war.
He must.
Now he begins to grow unpopular.
A necessary result.
Then some of those who joined in setting him up, and who are
in power, speak their minds to him and to one another, and the
more courageous of them cast in his teeth what is being done.
Yes, that may be expected.
And the tyrant, if he means to rule, must get rid of them;
he cannot stop while he has a friend or an enemy who is good
for anything.
He cannot.
And therefore he must look about him and see who is valiant,
who is high-minded, who is wise, who is wealthy; happy man,
he is the enemy of them all, and must seek occasion against
them whether he will or no, until he has made a purgation of
the State.
Yes, he said, and a rare purgation.
Yes, I said, not the sort of purgation which the physicians
make of the body; for they take away the worse and leave the
better part, but he does the reverse.
If he is to rule, I suppose that he cannot help himself.
What a blessed alternative, I said: --to be compelled to dwell
only with the many bad, and to be by them hated, or not to live
at all!
Yes, that is the alternative.
And the more detestable his actions are to the citizens the
more satellites and the greater devotion in them will he require?
Certainly.
And who are the devoted band, and where will he procure them?
They will flock to him, he said, of their own accord, if lie
pays them.
By the dog! I said, here are more drones, of every sort and
from every land.
Yes, he said, there are.
But will he not desire to get them on the spot?
How do you mean?
He will rob the citizens of their slaves; he will then set
them free and enrol them in his bodyguard.
To be sure, he said; and he will be able to trust them best
of all.
What a blessed creature, I said, must this tyrant be; he has
put to death the others and has these for his trusted friends.
Yes, he said; they are quite of his sort.
Yes, I said, and these are the new citizens whom he has called
into existence, who admire him and are his companions, while
the good hate and avoid him.
Of course.
Verily, then, tragedy is a wise thing and Euripides a great
tragedian.
Why so?
Why, because he is the author of the pregnant saying,
Tyrants are wise by living with the wise; and he clearly meant
to say that they are the wise whom the tyrant makes his companions.
Yes, he said, and he also praises tyranny as godlike; and
many other things of the same kind are said by him and by the
other poets.
And therefore, I said, the tragic poets being wise men will
forgive us and any others who live after our manner if we do
not receive them into our State, because they are the eulogists
of tyranny.
Yes, he said, those who have the wit will doubtless forgive
us.
But they will continue to go to other cities and attract mobs,
and hire voices fair and loud and persuasive, and draw the cities
over to tyrannies and democracies.
Very true.
Moreover, they are paid for this and receive honour --the
greatest honour, as might be expected, from tyrants, and the
next greatest from democracies; but the higher they ascend our
constitution hill, the more their reputation fails, and seems
unable from shortness of breath to proceed further.
True.
But we are wandering from the subject: Let us therefore return
and enquire how the tyrant will maintain that fair and numerous
and various and ever-changing army of his.
If, he said, there are sacred treasures in the city, he will
confiscate and spend them; and in so far as the fortunes of
attainted persons may suffice, he will be able to diminish the
taxes which he would otherwise have to impose upon the people.
And when these fail?
Why, clearly, he said, then he and his boon companions, whether
male or female, will be maintained out of his father's estate.
You mean to say that the people, from whom he has derived
his being, will maintain him and his companions?
Yes, he said; they cannot help themselves.
But what if the people fly into a passion, and aver that a
grown-up son ought not to be supported by his father, but that
the father should be supported by the son? The father did not
bring him into being, or settle him in life, in order that when
his son became a man he should himself be the servant of his
own servants and should support him and his rabble of slaves
and companions; but that his son should protect him, and that
by his help he might be emancipated from the government of the
rich and aristocratic, as they are termed. And so he bids him
and his companions depart, just as any other father might drive
out of the house a riotous son and his undesirable associates.
By heaven, he said, then the parent will discover what a monster
he has been fostering in his bosom; and, when he wants to drive
him out, he will find that he is weak and his son strong.
Why, you do not mean to say that the tyrant will use violence?
What! beat his father if he opposes him?
Yes, he will, having first disarmed him.
Then he is a parricide, and a cruel guardian of an aged parent;
and this is real tyranny, about which there can be no longer
a mistake: as the saying is, the people who would escape the
smoke which is the slavery of freemen, has fallen into the fire
which is the tyranny of slaves. Thus liberty, getting out of
all order and reason, passes into the harshest and bitterest
form of slavery.
True, he said.
Very well; and may we not rightly say that we have sufficiently
discussed the nature of tyranny, and the manner of the transition
from democracy to tyranny?
Yes, quite enough, he said.
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